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A Labour government did introduce the Human Rights...

2008-06-12T09:03:00.000+01:00

A Labour government did introduce the Human Rights Act -- and for that they should be thanked. But, of course, they didn't invent the idea.

I was picking up on the idea of the 'labour movement' -- not the Labour party -- as the engine-house of civil liberties. While the movement played its part, in terms of the right to protest, and while it used rhetoric harking back to Magna Carta, that was not the major part of the movement's activities. Over the twentieth century, Labour, as a political party, rarely placed civil liberties at its core. It seems to me that the reason for that is a perceived tension between 'civil liberties' and 'social justice' - a tension that, as a liberal, I'd deny.

People like Tony Benn and John McDonnell absolutel...

2008-06-11T23:30:00.000+01:00

People like Tony Benn and John McDonnell absolutely would. Which is exactly why they actually do link the two together in the articles you quote.

Labour used to have a proud record on Civil Liberties, particularly in opposing the PTA.

I'm not saying that we do now, but you're being dishonest if you're saying that we never did.

We invented the Human Rights Act too.